2023-12-11 SEC Call notes

Date

Dec 11, 2023

Discourse SEC calls

Participants

  • @Birger Haarbrandt

  • @Bostjan Lah

  • @Erik Sundvall

  • @Ian McNicoll

  • @Sebastian Iancu

  • @Sebastian Garde

  • @Seref Arikan

  • @Mattijs Kuhlmann

Goals

Discussion topics

 

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Main Agenda

20 min

Opening

ALL

SEC Jira board.

 

60 min

ADL2

@Bostjan Lah

Status update

@Pieter Bos https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ADL/pages/2148630574

@Thomas Beale https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ADL/pages/2135457828

https://discourse.openehr.org/t/adl3-straw-man-specification/4752

  • review last proposal from Thomas (see discourse); provisional reactions

    • @Bostjan Lah so far it seems a bit of better proposal because address ADL2 changes and does not breaks the data, btu we need to do further evaluation on the proposal;

    • @Bostjan Lah also i am not sure why we need to remove the 000 digits (zero-padding) from the at-codes; it would be nice if we don’t have to do this

    • @Sebastian Garde I would like to know and see how can we easily convert ADL2 archetypes to ADL1.4, because we will be needed for a while

    • @Mattijs Kuhlmann we don’t have zero-padded at-codes (ADL2)

    • @Seref Arikan did we had evaluation on what will be the impact on converting all archetypes?

  • further discussions going on - it looks like there is not sufficient incentive for the SEC switch over to this new proposal, it is still preferred to stick to original decision made at Arnhem.

  • @Bostjan Lah, @Ian McNicoll we should then analyse if we can use IdSys and AtSys numbering as profiles added to ADL specs, where community is most likely goings to use AtSys

    • further discussion and reaction about going on this path

  • @Bostjan Lah

  • see Arnhem meeting for notes about semantic keys and aliases

  • Members present at the SEC meeting prefer moving to an ADL with at-codes to reduce effect on users of CDRs. To allow keeping common ADL we propose the suggestion to introduce ADL+sys specification where code-system is separate from the ADL “language”. We would like to keep primary codes as at-codes in ADL2x but add optional secondary codes (so at-sys would have primary codes as at-codes, but also add id-codes for potential future use). This change also does not require additional fields in the RM.

10 min

WGs implementation

@Sebastian Iancu

Update from latest REST WG meetings

 

  • not discussed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next SEC call 2023-10-16

 

 

Notes

 

 

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