2024-06-24 SEC Call notes

10 min

Opening

ALL

SEC Jira board.

15 min

Various aspects

@Sebastian Iancu

• Conference UK Nov 2024 Connectathon

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• @Sebastian Iancu will make Jira tickets to execute decision about retirement of some specs as per Berlin’s meeting

• it will be nice to report on discourse on Berlin’s meeting.

• SEC accepts Borut Jures as SEC Expert, @Sebastian Iancu should make formaties with Jill

• propose SEC meeting 4th Nov (conference pre-day), perhaps in London @Sebastian Iancu needs to contact Jill.

and maybe it would be good to invite a few people from the CPB, like Silje, on the first topics. @Joost Holslag

Demo/Hackathon/Connectathon for Conference in November

@Sebastian Iancu

The summary of the discussion is below and we would really like your take on this

• IPS is a major driver - this is something we need a position on and the conference could be used to kick this off - it will also help with the EHDS

• We felt there was a real SMART on openEHR angle too

• As a result we felt this was both a connectathon and a hack with 2 streams

• We felt Better/Cambio/Vita (and others please let us know who) should be approached to provide CDR capability

• An idea might be showing IPS working across the CDRs and then a challenge to build a SMART on FHIR app over this

• One of our likely speakers is a patient who has worked on the SMART on FHIR IPS patient app so this would fit in well

• On the second day of the conference near the end we can have a main stage slot to review the progress

• it will take a lot of SEC members time during conference to fully attend and support a live hackathon,

• it is a good idea but requires resources, preparations, infrastructure, scenarios - SEC should not be the one responsible

• SEC would rather support DEMOs instead of a hackathon

  • We suggest having a hackathon or connectathon some other time - not during conference

• Suggests also:

  • Federation (EY) as demo

  • CarePlan modelling perspectives as discussion topic

15 min

ADL Formalism

@Joost Holslag

Could we discuss adl formalisms? Discussionion on discourse has been a bit all over the place. So I hope to focus a bit on the key stakeholders (modellers, CKM, AD and CDRs).

• we support to explore a single design time formalism for archetypes and templates

• YAML representation for design time, including exploring simplifications (special microformats), which should be able to replace ADL

  • JSON ?

    • @Pablo Pazos https://jsonlogic.com/

  • some of the cADL specification will become microformats @Sebastian Iancu

    • try cADL as “CDATA”?

    • check FHIR shorthand

  • OPT are still needed in order to make for a gradual adoption of yaml templates

  • rules ?

    • need consolidating EL;

    • AOM2.3 BEL only implemented by Nedap,

    • we should put a remark in ADL2.4 specs that it may be deprecated in the future @Joost Holslag

• when we manage to have such format, we (SEC) would be able to retire cADL, ADL, ODIN, etc. specifications

FHIR collaboration

@Joost Holslag

Other topics of potential interest are FHIR collaboration, my 10 point list on LinkedIn (incl mappings in CKM).

• not discussed