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coffee T Beale
Borut Fabjan
Rong coffee

Problems noted:

  • newcomers versus 'congregation' balance needs to be better
  • need to address: privacy, accessibility, cookies
  • mobile version of website
  • remove / redirect openehrfoundation website

    Suggestions:

    • very visible demo links
    • make link to CKM more obvious
    • blog syndication, esp in program pages
    • outgoing links to stackoverflow openEHR references
    • news for each program
    • events news should only be future events (past events on another page)
    • get subdomains versus /xxx rationalised
    • 'why openehr' needs to be addressed on home page; e.g. Seref's blog post
      • basic block approach: 'how to store data', 'how to define content', .....
      • Marand site content
    • newcomers: top half of home page
    • connect to LinkedIn discussions (how?)
    • endorsements by using orgs visible on home page
    • consider 'portal's approach i.e. home page for devs, clinicians etc

    Decisions:

    • connect members.openehr.org to main site
    • curate members.openehr.org
    • move website and mailing lists to new Hetzner server
    • put together a requirements statement
    • method of usability testing
    • web content committee
    • mailing lists on new server + mhonarc for mailing list archive
    • ensure news authors have login
    LUNCH   
    TimeTopicWhoNotesPresentations, Outcomes
    Tuesday 16 September
    09:00

    Intro - scene setting

    Meeting goals

    Priorities

    2 mins from anyone on the floor

    facilitator: T Beale

     

    TB opening remarks slides PDF.

    Original TB blog post on key criteria.

    Priorities mentioned during introductions:

    • Entry level openEHR - getting started is too hard
    • Deal with licensing FUD
    • Support for localisation, affiliate groups
    10:30--------- COFFEE ----------   
    10:45The Foundation

    Ian McNicoll
    Tomaz Gornik 

     

    Ian McNicoll presentation on new board structure.

    Questions raised:

    • articles of association / statutes / by-laws - where defined? Gunnar Klein
    • registering trademark outside of Europe
    • what is UCL's role? Why not independently registered as a company? Does UCL need to be involved?
    • Erik Sundvall: need to be able to fork specifications; requires different license.

    Actions:

    • Gunnar K offered to help with draft & review of statutes etc
    • Text of membership page needs to be changed to reflect 15€ membership idea. Ian M / Adriana
    • General feeling is to change org diagram so that 'second board' is a management committee including program leads
    11:15

    HANDI / NHS

    all 

    Ian McNicoll presentation on HANDI-HOPD

    Demo platform being managed by HANDI, not NHS

    Already involving some European companies

    Questions:

    • How do we make the openEHR engagement more active and visible?
    12:00------------ LUNCH --------------   
    13:00

    Conformance, APIs

    openEHR inVivo

    fac: Tomaz
    Borut, everyone

    Decisions needed:

    • rough definition of conformance specifications to create

    Tomaz intro:

    • IHE approach - publicly announce compliance profiles; required to go to connectathon and demonstrate interop with 2 or more other products; monitors give certification.

    detailed notes here.

    13:30Vendor model of Cooperation & Collaboration & CompetitionTomaz Gornik,
    Ian McNicoll
     (deferred)
    14:00Specifications governance & toolingT Beale

    Decisions needed:

    • conversion of specifications from FrameMaker to alternative format, e.g. AsciiDoc, DITA...
    • agree lightweight change process

    TB explained current status quo of releases and tooling.

    Actions:

    • review specifications governance - TB, Erik Sundvall, Gunnar Klein
    • agreed Asciidoc as candidate new doc toolchain - Bostjan, Fabio, TB
    • provide a tooling and specifications roadmap overview (S From, DIPS)

    Questions:

    • how to move to tool-based UML, integrated with documentation?
    • tool-based class definition tables? Obtainable from UML tool?
    14:45GDL & CDS updateRong

    Decisions needed:

    • GDL needs to become a proper specification
    Rong & Iago presentation on GDL and new features.
    15:00----------------------------------   
    15:15Incorporating new specifications - GDL & AQLRong,
    All
     TB: GDL can be first spec in Asciidoc tool chain approach
    16:30

    Archetype tooling and ADL 1.5

    • Archetype editor, Template designer
    • EhrExplorer
    ----------------------- coffee -----------------------------------------------------
    15:15Incorporating new specifications - GDL & AQLRong,
    All
     TB: GDL can be first spec in Asciidoc tool chain approach
    16:30

    Archetype tooling and ADL 1.5

    • Archetype editor, Template designer
    • EhrExplorer

    T Beale
    Borut Fabjan
    Rong
    ... 

    Decisions needed:

    • what version to rename ADL 1.5 to, since it is now no longer directly compatible with ADL 1.4
    • what approach to migrating from ADL 1.4 to ADL 1.x .... 2.*

    Actions:

    • agreed to rename current ADL 1.5 spec to 2.x
    • agreed in principle on a community tooling project in Java / js / web UI
    Wednesday 17 September
    09:00

    Clinical modelling

    • development sprint
    • editorial team
    • model of sharing, versioning

     

    fac: Ian

    Heather

    Tomaz

     

    Decisions needed:

    • agreement on mode of action on 'industry sprint'

    See this wiki page for main description.

    Candidate archetype list.

    Heather:

    • about 30 / 30 / 30% easy / medium / hard
    • need to have industry partners involvement to the extent of reviewing to-be-published archetypes for their use (i.e. for implementation).
    • publishing - important PR exercise

    Agreements

    • It was agreed that some new editors will come on board for the sprint.
    • It was stated that full terminology bindings would be developed in a following phase; however epSOS terminology coverage will be reviewed during the exercise.
    • need to include some example data for each? archetype

    Main terminology bindings would better be done by IHTSDO involvement with CIMI. Potential contacts - Daniel Karlsson, Linda Bird.

    Possible synchronisation with Norway archetype development; contact Silje

    09:30

    Clinical model sharing issues across CKMs

    openEHR CKM status

    fac: Ian

     

    Erik/ Ian M: we can potentially use Git-style methods to mechanically implement the fork / pull request lifecycle.

    Heather: right now, Change Request mechanism being added to CKM in next release.

    Question: how to submit a new archetype from a national program that doesn't exist in CKM yet.

    Martin vd Meer: need better documentation on how to do clinical modelling.

    Ian: could even use Stackoverflow.

    10:15---------------   
    10:30

    National openEHR updates

    • Sweden
    • Norway experience, methodology
    • Japan
    • Spain / 13606
    • Australia
    • Slovenia
    • UK - NHS/FHIR

    Erik S

    Silje

    Shinji

    David Moner

    Hugh Leslie

    Ian

     

    Details on this page.

    11:00InfrastructureDIPS, Borut, T Beale

    Decisions needed:

    • need to fund dedicated openEHR.org server, allowing multiple sub-domain websites, Jira, etc
    • need to agree on sysadmin responsibility

    Decisions:

    • move to new Linux server at Hetzner
    • sysadmin human resource from Ocean, Marand, DIPS, Code24
    11:30

    Web / e-presence

    • solicit requirements
    • web site ideas
    • educational materials
    • entry points

    fac: TB

    Heather

    Adriana Danilakova

    all

     12:00-------------------------------- coffee -----------------------------------------------
    10:30

    National openEHR updates

    • Sweden
    • Norway experience, methodology
    • Japan
    • Spain / 13606
    • Australia
    • Slovenia
    • UK - NHS/FHIR

    Erik S

    Silje

    Shinji

    David Moner

    Hugh Leslie

    Ian

     

    Details on this page.

    11:00InfrastructureDIPS, Borut, T Beale

    Decisions needed:

    • need to fund dedicated openEHR.org server, allowing multiple sub-domain websites, Jira, etc
    • need to agree on sysadmin responsibility

    Decisions:

    • move to new Linux server at Hetzner
    • sysadmin human resource from Ocean, Marand, DIPS, Code24
    11:30

    Web / e-presence

    • solicit requirements
    • web site ideas
    • educational materials
    • entry points

    fac: TB

    Heather

    Adriana Danilakova

    all

     

    Problems noted:

    • newcomers versus 'congregation' balance needs to be better
    • need to address: privacy, accessibility, cookies
    • mobile version of website
    • remove / redirect openehrfoundation website

    Suggestions:

    • very visible demo links
    • make link to CKM more obvious
    • blog syndication, esp in program pages
    • outgoing links to stackoverflow openEHR references
    • news for each program
    • events news should only be future events (past events on another page)
    • get subdomains versus /xxx rationalised
    • 'why openehr' needs to be addressed on home page; e.g. Seref's blog post
      • basic block approach: 'how to store data', 'how to define content', .....
      • Marand site content
    • newcomers: top half of home page
    • connect to LinkedIn discussions (how?)
    • endorsements by using orgs visible on home page
    • consider 'portal's approach i.e. home page for devs, clinicians etc

    Decisions:

    • connect members.openehr.org to main site
    • curate members.openehr.org
    • move website and mailing lists to new Hetzner server
    • put together a requirements statement
    • method of usability testing
    • web content committee
    • mailing lists on new server + mhonarc for mailing list archive
    • ensure news authors have login
    12:00------------------------------------------------------------ LUNCH -------------------------------------------------------------  

    13:00

    FHIR + SMART, IHE - technical, EN ISO 13606

    • DIPS & FHIR 10 mins
    • Marand update 10 mins
    • IHE - Marand
    • T Beale - archetype-based approach 10 mins

    T Beale
    Borut Fabjan
    DIPS 

    Decisions needed:

    • openEHR approach to FHIR
    • openEHR and IHE
    • openEHR and EN ISO 13606

    Borut Fabjan openEHR / IHE / FHIR presentation.

    Room agreed that

    • we need to create an openEHR technical position on IHE and FHIR
    • model-based approach to FHIR makes more sense than manually built resources

     

    14:00Localisation

    fac: Ian M

    Shinji

    (deferred to webinar next week) 
    14:30ADL & tooling discussion continuedfac: TB 

    Agreed on call among key implementers to build a description of a tool, and rough project definition:

    TB
      

    • Ocean - TB, Seref Arikan, Sebastian
    • Marand - Bostjan, Borut, Marko
    • Code24 - Sebastian Iancu
    • DIPS - TBD (contact Bjorn Naess)
    15:00Wrap up - road ahead, agreementsIan McNicoll,
    Tomaz Gornik
      
    16:00===================================== END ====================================  


     

    Preparation

    TBD

     

     

    10:00Model of Cooperation & Collaboration & Competitionall