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Live Streaming

LYNC SESSION

Logistics

  

Purpose

This meeting is intended to determine key parts of the openEHR roadmap, development plan and community governance for the next 18 months. Attendees are expected to primarily either be implementers or have a serious interest in implementation. This includes people from organisations using / wanting to use openEHR archetypes in real implementations.

When

social evening 15 Sep

16 Sep 2014: 09:00 - 17:00

17 Sep 2014: 09:00 - 16:00

Where

DIPS offices central Oslo. DIPS asa, the leading EHR vendor in Norway has very kindly provided office space in their building next to Oslo central station for this meeting.

Hotels - there are numerous good hotels in Oslo. Here are some suggestions

Due to a scheduling conflict (we rent our office space in Oslo from Deloitte), we have had to move the meeting to a different location. For those of you coming in by air, it will actually shorten your travel, as the new venue now is

Lillestrøm Kultursenter in Lillestrøm (Lillestrøm Culture Center), adr: Kirkegata 11, Lillestrøm.

As it happens, this is the little town just outside Oslo where I live, and it is just 12 minutes from Oslo Airport Gardermoen by train.

How to get there:

From Oslo Airport Gardermoen take the Airport Express Train to Lillestrøm. Note that only every second train stops at Lillestrøm, this would be the trains departing at 10, 30 and 50 minutes past the hour, marked Drammen. The trains marked Oslo will not stop at Lillestrøm.

The Airport Express Train is a bit pricy (130 NOK), so you could consider taking the Regional Train departing from the same station (take a left before the turnstiles of the Airport Express). During normal hours it departs at 03 and 43 every hour, and goes just as fast. The price is about the half, as long as you buy your ticket from the vending machine at the airport (and not onboard the train). The difference will buy you almost one - 1 - beer at a low end bar. A 24 hour pass for 4 sones (required to get from Airport to Center Oslo) is 190 NOK.

Upon arriving in Lillestrøm, the venue will be on your 10 o'clock when departing the station (provided you used the correct exit, if you make a left at the bottom of the stairs from the platform, you'll be OK.

Where to stay:

There aren't that many hotels in Lillestrøm. Thon Arena is the best, Thon Lillestrøm i OK, and Fagerborg a little less than OK (but it has a colorful history). All of them are within walking distance. http://www.thonhotels.no/

Staying in Central Oslo is not a problem, the train takes about 10 minutes (as long as you avoid the local train) and cost 50 NOK. Prices will be more or less the same.

Participation

The physical meeting will accommodate a maximum of 40 people. We will provide some level of streaming / e-participation - details TBD.

Registration

Register here - physical space limited. Please do not use this registration unless you actually intend to physically be at the meeting.

Social Events

Monday night

beer and strategy!

Café Skansen

Rådhusgata 32
0151 Oslo

7 pm ish for drinks. This is close to the main train station. Many restaurants and other bars close by.

Social Events

Tuesday night

keeping the discussions going

Restaurant Salsa
Huitfeldtsgate 25

 7 pm 

After a long day of discussions and ideas, we move in to the center of Oslo for a few drinks and something to eat around 7 pm on Tuesday. We have reserved a section in an informal tapas-kinda place where we will be able to grab something to eat, get a few drinks and best of all, continue our discussions as the manager has promised me to keep the music down.

Restaurant Salsa ( salsa.no ) is situated close to National theatre railway station and Aker Brygge. The adress is Huitfeldtsgate 25.

 

About this Meeting

This is just one of a series of face to face meetings we expect to run over the next 18 months. Don't worry if you cannot get to this one. You can provide input for the meeting via:

  • the mailing lists
  • this wiki page - e.g. agenda items below
  • teleconference calls leading up to the meeting

All outcomes of the meeting will be publicly available, and we hope to have streaming video, with presentations available online afterwards.

Organising Committee

  • Tomas Nordheim Alme <tna at dips dot no> 
  • Thomas Beale <thomas.beale at oceaninformatics dot com>
  • Ian McNicoll <ian at freshehr dot com>
  • Tomaz Gornik <tomaz.gornik at marand dot si>
  • Adriana Danilakova <adriana.danilakova at gmail dot com>

Agenda

Agenda topics potentially include the following.

  • SPECIFICATIONS
    • overview - the big picture; define next releases and allocate key CRs
    • openEHR APIs - development and publishing
    • ADL 1.5 - what to call it, what roadmap?
    • Include GDL in specs
    • AQL
    • Areas for new specifications:
      • identify 'difficult' design issues going forward, that require common answers, e.g. 'second order structures', and how we propose to deal with that
      • IHE
      • FHIR
  • CLINICAL
    • Industry 'sprint' archetype development - workplan/progress
    • Expanding the editorial team
    • 'archetype methodology' experience across the world
      • PARENT, SHN, UK, Norway, Australia, Brazil, Slovenia, Spain,CIMI

  • PROFESSIONALISM
    • openEHR training & certification
  • PRODUCT & MARKET
    • commercialising the platform concept
    • conformance and product accreditation
  • INFRASTRUCTURE
    • technical documentation - a proposal form moving to DITA
    • community infrastructure - web, lists, etc
  • WORKING WITH THE OPENEHR FOUNDATION
    • governance
    • PR / presence activities
    • budget
  • TOOLING SOLUTIONS
    • open source tooling project(s) roadmap
    • new ADL 1.5 archetype/template 'studio'?
  • LOGISTICS
    • decide next meetings

If you would like to add something to the agenda, please do so below.

Agenda itemNameDate
   

Meeting Schedule

TimeTopicWhoNotesPresentations, Outcomes
Tuesday 16 September
09:00

Intro - scene setting

Meeting goals

Priorities

2 mins from anyone on the floor

facilitator: T Beale

 

TB opening remarks slides PDF.

Original TB blog post on key criteria.

Priorities mentioned during introductions:

  • Entry level openEHR - getting started is too hard
  • Deal with licensing FUD
  • Support for localisation, affiliate groups
10:30--------- COFFEE ----------   
10:45The Foundation

Ian McNicoll
Tomaz Gornik 

 

Ian McNicoll presentation on new board structure.

Questions raised:

  • articles of association / statutes / by-laws - where defined? Gunnar Klein
  • registering trademark outside of Europe
  • what is UCL's role? Why not independently registered as a company? Does UCL need to be involved?
  • Erik Sundvall: need to be able to fork specifications; requires different license.

Actions:

  • Gunnar K offered to help with draft & review of statutes etc
  • Text of membership page needs to be changed to reflect 15€ membership idea. Ian M / Adriana
  • General feeling is to change org diagram so that 'second board' is a management committee including program leads
11:15

HANDI / NHS

all 

Ian McNicoll presentation on HANDI-HOPD

Demo platform being managed by HANDI, not NHS

Already involving some European companies

Questions:

  • How do we make the openEHR engagement more active and visible?
12:00------------ LUNCH --------------   
13:00

Conformance, APIs

openEHR inVivo

fac: Tomaz
Borut, everyone

Decisions needed:

  • rough definition of conformance specifications to create

Tomaz intro:

  • IHE approach - publicly announce compliance profiles; required to go to connectathon and demonstrate interop with 2 or more other products; monitors give certification.

detailed notes here.

13:30Vendor model of Cooperation & Collaboration & CompetitionTomaz Gornik,
Ian McNicoll
 (deferred)
14:00Specifications governance & toolingT Beale

Decisions needed:

  • conversion of specifications from FrameMaker to alternative format, e.g. AsciiDoc, DITA...
  • agree lightweight change process

TB explained current status quo of releases and tooling.

Actions:

  • review specifications governance - TB, Erik Sundvall, Gunnar Klein
  • agreed Asciidoc as candidate new doc toolchain - Bostjan, Fabio, TB
  • provide a tooling and specifications roadmap overview (S From, DIPS)

Questions:

  • how to move to tool-based UML, integrated with documentation?
  • tool-based class definition tables? Obtainable from UML tool?
14:45GDL & CDS updateRong

Decisions needed:

  • GDL needs to become a proper specification
Rong & Iago presentation on GDL and new features.
15:00--------------------------------------------------------- coffee -----------------------------------------------------
15:15Incorporating new specifications - GDL & AQLRong,
All
 TB: GDL can be first spec in Asciidoc tool chain approach
16:30

Archetype tooling and ADL 1.5

  • Archetype editor, Template designer
  • EhrExplorer

T Beale
Borut Fabjan
Rong
... 

Decisions needed:

  • what version to rename ADL 1.5 to, since it is now no longer directly compatible with ADL 1.4
  • what approach to migrating from ADL 1.4 to ADL 1.x .... 2.*

Actions:

  • agreed to rename current ADL 1.5 spec to 2.x
  • agreed in principle on a community tooling project in Java / js / web UI
Wednesday 17 September
09:00

Clinical modelling

  • development sprint
  • editorial team
  • model of sharing, versioning

 

fac: Ian

Heather

Tomaz

 

Decisions needed:

  • agreement on mode of action on 'industry sprint'

See this wiki page for main description.

Candidate archetype list.

Heather:

  • about 30 / 30 / 30% easy / medium / hard
  • need to have industry partners involvement to the extent of reviewing to-be-published archetypes for their use (i.e. for implementation).
  • publishing - important PR exercise

Agreements

  • It was agreed that some new editors will come on board for the sprint.
  • It was stated that full terminology bindings would be developed in a following phase; however epSOS terminology coverage will be reviewed during the exercise.
  • need to include some example data for each? archetype

Main terminology bindings would better be done by IHTSDO involvement with CIMI. Potential contacts - Daniel Karlsson, Linda Bird.

Possible synchronisation with Norway archetype development; contact Silje

09:30

Clinical model sharing issues across CKMs

openEHR CKM status

fac: Ian

 

Erik/ Ian M: we can potentially use Git-style methods to mechanically implement the fork / pull request lifecycle.

Heather: right now, Change Request mechanism being added to CKM in next release.

Question: how to submit a new archetype from a national program that doesn't exist in CKM yet.

Martin vd Meer: need better documentation on how to do clinical modelling.

Ian: could even use Stackoverflow.

10:15----------------------------------------------- coffee -----------------------------------------------
10:30

National openEHR updates

  • Sweden
  • Norway experience, methodology
  • Japan
  • Spain / 13606
  • Australia
  • Slovenia
  • UK - NHS/FHIR

Erik S

Silje

Shinji

David Moner

Hugh Leslie

Ian

 

Details on this page.

11:00InfrastructureDIPS, Borut, T Beale

Decisions needed:

  • need to fund dedicated openEHR.org server, allowing multiple sub-domain websites, Jira, etc
  • need to agree on sysadmin responsibility

Decisions:

  • move to new Linux server at Hetzner
  • sysadmin human resource from Ocean, Marand, DIPS, Code24
11:30

Web / e-presence

  • solicit requirements
  • web site ideas
  • educational materials
  • entry points

fac: TB

Heather

Adriana Danilakova

all

 

Problems noted:

  • newcomers versus 'congregation' balance needs to be better
  • need to address: privacy, accessibility, cookies
  • mobile version of website
  • remove / redirect openehrfoundation website

Suggestions:

  • very visible demo links
  • make link to CKM more obvious
  • blog syndication, esp in program pages
  • outgoing links to stackoverflow openEHR references
  • news for each program
  • events news should only be future events (past events on another page)
  • get subdomains versus /xxx rationalised
  • 'why openehr' needs to be addressed on home page; e.g. Seref's blog post
    • basic block approach: 'how to store data', 'how to define content', .....
    • Marand site content
  • newcomers: top half of home page
  • connect to LinkedIn discussions (how?)
  • endorsements by using orgs visible on home page
  • consider 'portal's approach i.e. home page for devs, clinicians etc

Decisions:

  • connect members.openehr.org to main site
  • curate members.openehr.org
  • move website and mailing lists to new Hetzner server
  • put together a requirements statement
  • method of usability testing
  • web content committee
  • mailing lists on new server + mhonarc for mailing list archive
  • ensure news authors have login
12:00------------------------------------------------------------ LUNCH -------------------------------------------------------------

13:00

FHIR + SMART, IHE - technical, EN ISO 13606

  • DIPS & FHIR 10 mins
  • Marand update 10 mins
  • IHE - Marand
  • T Beale - archetype-based approach 10 mins

T Beale
Borut Fabjan
DIPS 

Decisions needed:

  • openEHR approach to FHIR
  • openEHR and IHE
  • openEHR and EN ISO 13606

Borut Fabjan openEHR / IHE / FHIR presentation.

Room agreed that

  • we need to create an openEHR technical position on IHE and FHIR
  • model-based approach to FHIR makes more sense than manually built resources

 

14:00Localisation

fac: Ian M

Shinji

(deferred to webinar next week) 
14:30ADL & tooling discussion continuedfac: TB 

Agreed on call among key implementers to build a description of a tool, and rough project definition:

  • Ocean - TB, Seref Arikan, Sebastian
  • Marand - Bostjan, Borut, Marko
  • Code24 - Sebastian Iancu
  • DIPS - TBD (contact Bjorn Naess)
15:00Wrap up - road ahead, agreementsIan McNicoll,
Tomaz Gornik
  
16:00===================================== END ====================================


 

Preparation

TBD

 

 

10:00Model of Cooperation & Collaboration & Competitionall
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