2024-06-24 SEC Call notes

Main Agenda

10 min

Opening

ALL

SEC Jira board.

15 min

Various aspects

Sebastian Iancu

• Conference UK Nov 2024 Connectathon

• Sebastian Iancu will make Jira tickets to execute decision about retirement of some specs as per Berlin’s meeting

• it will be nice to report on discourse on Berlin’s meeting.

• SEC accepts Borut Jures as SEC Expert, Sebastian Iancu should make formaties with Jill

• propose SEC meeting 4th Nov (conference pre-day), perhaps in London Sebastian Iancu needs to contact Jill.

and maybe it would be good to invite a few people from the CPB, like Silje, on the first topics. Joost Holslag

The summary of the discussion is below and we would really like your take on this

• IPS is a major driver - this is something we need a position on and the conference could be used to kick this off - it will also help with the EHDS

• We felt there was a real SMART on openEHR angle too

• As a result we felt this was both a connectathon and a hack with 2 streams

• We felt Better/Cambio/Vita (and others please let us know who) should be approached to provide CDR capability

• An idea might be showing IPS working across the CDRs and then a challenge to build a SMART on FHIR app over this

• One of our likely speakers is a patient who has worked on the SMART on FHIR IPS patient app so this would fit in well

• On the second day of the conference near the end we can have a main stage slot to review the progress

• it will take a lot of SEC members time during conference to fully attend and support a live hackathon,

• it is a good idea but requires resources, preparations, infrastructure, scenarios - SEC should not be the one responsible

• SEC would rather support DEMOs instead of a hackathon

  • We suggest having a hackathon or connectathon some other time - not during conference

• Suggests also:

  • Federation (EY) as demo

  • CarePlan modelling perspectives as discussion topic

15 min

ADL Formalism

Joost Holslag

Could we discuss adl formalisms? Discussionion on discourse has been a bit all over the place. So I hope to focus a bit on the key stakeholders (modellers, CKM, AD and CDRs).

• we support to explore a single design time formalism for archetypes and templates

• YAML representation for design time, including exploring simplifications (special microformats), which should be able to replace ADL

  • JSON ?

    • Pablo Pazos https://jsonlogic.com/

  • some of the cADL specification will become microformats Sebastian Iancu

    • try cADL as “CDATA”?

    • check FHIR shorthand

  • OPT are still needed in order to make for a gradual adoption of yaml templates

  • rules ?

    • need consolidating EL;

    • AOM2.3 BEL only implemented by Nedap,

    • we should put a remark in ADL2.4 specs that it may be deprecated in the future Joost Holslag

• when we manage to have such format, we (SEC) would be able to retire cADL, ADL, ODIN, etc. specifications

FHIR collaboration

Joost Holslag

Other topics of potential interest are FHIR collaboration, my 10 point list on LinkedIn (incl mappings in CKM).