2022-05-16 SEC Call notes
Date
May 16, 2022
Call Link
Participants
@Thomas Beale
@Sebastian Iancu
@Diego Boscá Tomás
@Joost Holslag
@Sebastian Garde
@Bjørn Næss
@Seref Arikan (Personal)
@Matija Polajnar
Goals
previous meeting:
Discussion topics
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5 min | Opening |
| USEFUL Jira RESOURCE: CRs I have not accepted. |
10 min | SEC governance update. | @Thomas Beale @Sebastian Iancu | SEC ToR 2.0.0 is now CIC Board approved Co-chair election may now take place. |
10 min | openEHR.nl - conf openEHR Friday 3rd Jun 2022 SEC meeting 1/2 June - Houten (Utrecht) | @Sebastian Iancu | https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/oeEoj0Kb Attendance - PB, JH, SI, TB?, SG?, DB, ?Birger? check Rong, Ian? |
30 min | Care plans in the real world. | @Joost Holslag | @Joost Holslag - Nedap mostly happy with current design based on RM @Sebastian Iancu - some unmet needs for new versions @Seref Arikan (Personal) - Ocean has substantial CP product; more ‘hacky’ solutions hard to compete with; access control based - who should have access changes over period of care plan; @Bjørn Næss - how to handle multi-user access; transactional interface @Thomas Beale , @Bjørn Næss - API approach worth considering - maps transactional functions to data structures @Seref Arikan (Personal) - transactional approach challenging x-enterprise etc; RM = ‘leaky abstraction’ in some contexts; bidirectional mappings in and out of FHIR @Bjørn Næss - 8 Sep Stockholm - Nordic openEHR collaboration - at KI UH. |
5 min | ADL 2.3.0 progress | @Pieter Bos @Thomas Beale | Basic EL created; AOM 2.3 updated to integrate. Working on value set containment. |
15 min | openEHR <=> FHIR converter | @Diego Bosca | main mapping direction: openEHR → FHIR (other direction not very coherent) @Matija Polajnar : Better has their own openEHR<->FHIR mapping capability, one being discarded and one new in development; the idea is to have 2-phase mapping (archetypes<->resources and templates<->profiles/bundles), and to share the first mappings in CKM or alike. Example of first kind of mapping (subject to change!)
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5 min | Better feedback from vendors on adoption obstacles | @Seref Arikan (Personal) | Most programming revolves around serialisations of data - methods in openEHR RM not? usually used. App developers don’t go beyond the REST API view of the model. Devs could look at the RM spec and wonder about methods etc, when these are not needed in the REST API view. Also to consider: features in new languages (Go, …). Algebraic data types… Syntaxes that are not industry-standard are problems - e.g. archetypes, expression language, etc. |
Tips and Tricks | |||
| openEHR Antlr4 grammars now in github/openEHR | @Thomas Beale | A new set of modal grammars for parsing:
Could be merged into Archie |
Hackers' Corner | |||
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Next SEC call | |||
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